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Hazing and Bullying in the Military

Started Jan 13

Diversity and Sexuality in the Korengal
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Given the demands and intensity of combat, and the abstinence deprivations of a 15-month deployment to places like the Korengal Valley, is it possible that a gay male soldier, or a straight female…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Sebastian Junger Jan 19.

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Sebastian Junger replied to Anton P. Zurbrugg's discussion 'Diversity and Sexuality in the Korengal'

sexual assault is an issue on the large bases - as is pregnancy - but i've never heard of it at a small outpost. its 15 soldiers with zero privacy...its hard to imagine how the mechanics of sexual assault would work in that context. the larger…

Jan 19

Wayne Redick replied to Anton P. Zurbrugg's discussion 'Diversity and Sexuality in the Korengal'

Certainly, the soldiers likely have other things on their minds than just sex. Staying alive could be one.But there is always a chance of a few who do not play nice and do not think ahead of the reprocussions of their choices of actions.

Jan 14

Hazing and Bullying in the Military

Following the Oct. 2011 apparent suicide of Army PVT Danny Chen in AFGH, the military (Army) has just rolled out its new Hazing Policy. By all accounts Chen was repeatedly hazed and bullied in AFGH by those duly appointed over him due to his ethnicity to such an extent that he was driven to take his own life while serving a country he loved and was pledged to serve. It is an unmitigated tragedy that we have allowed ourselves to become so hidebound and driven by "custom and tradition" that…See More

Discussion posted by Anton P. Zurbrugg Jan 13

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AH Regier replied to Anton P. Zurbrugg's discussion 'Diversity and Sexuality in the Korengal'

With all due respect to Sebastian Junger, I don't think that Anton misunderstands human sexuality at all. Instead, he grasps the darker side of it all too well. The DADT policy sanctioned homophobia. It said, in effect, that…

Jul 24, 2011

Sebastian Junger replied to Anton P. Zurbrugg's discussion 'Diversity and Sexuality in the Korengal'

Hi, thank you for your comments...and for your service. I think the military has changed enormously since the 1960s and will continue to. I think, in terms of women in combat, the question isnt so much "can they?" (clearly they can) but…

Jul 18, 2011

Anton P. Zurbrugg replied to Anton P. Zurbrugg's discussion 'Diversity and Sexuality in the Korengal'

Sebastian...Thanks as before...you have great credibility with me and I totally relate to what you say....perhaps it has already happen somewhere in AFGH and other active combat location and we just don't know about it. The changes…

Jul 18, 2011

Sebastian Junger replied to Anton P. Zurbrugg's discussion 'Diversity and Sexuality in the Korengal'

Hi there - thank you for your thoughts and questions. The beatings were a form of initiation that the "victim" could have called off at any moment; he would just have then not been considered part of the group (an important distinction in…

Jul 18, 2011

Anton P. Zurbrugg replied to Anton P. Zurbrugg's discussion 'Diversity and Sexuality in the Korengal'

Thanks to you both for wading in...Sebastian, you've been there with these rock & roll dudes, so you know the lay of the land. I tend to agree with your overall assessment, with a few minor reservations, but hey, I'm…

Jul 18, 2011

Sebastian Junger replied to Anton P. Zurbrugg's discussion 'Diversity and Sexuality in the Korengal'

Of course. I think you're misunderstanding how human sexuality generally works. And how soldiers work, for that matter. Civilian identity tends to get subsumed by the demands of combat, so being gay, female, black, rich, poor, educated,…

Jul 17, 2011